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892 4th St E

Duplex · 2 units: 2 bed / 1 bath ×2 unit split estimated · 1,604 sq ft

Saint Paul, MN · Dayton's Bluff · View the listing ↗

Overpriced

Photos, via Realtor.com.

Asking price
$329,000
2 units · $164K per unit
Monthly cash flow
−$525
at 20% down, 7%
Estimated rent
$2,650/mo
low confidence · 7 rentals within 0.75 mi
Break-even price
$230,423
where cash flow hits $0

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First look

This is a full gut rebuild of an up/down duplex, and the photos back that up with new kitchens, baths, floors and windows. The numbers still don't work. At $329K our model shows about -$525/mo cash flow and a 4.5% cap rate, and break-even is near $230K, roughly $99K under ask. The county's market value is only $123K, which suggests the assessor hasn't caught up with the rebuild or the price is well ahead of local comps. The listing says nothing about permits, rents or tenants. The building has been on the city's Vacant Building registry since October 2024 and has no rental license on file, so start there. Worth a showing only if the price drops hard and the permits and city file check out.

Things to consider

  1. Price vs. income Our model shows negative cash flow and a break-even price about $99K under ask. At this price you are paying for a finished product the rents can't support.
  2. Vacant Building registry Registry status can limit sale or occupancy until the city approves. Confirm the category and release before spending on inspections.
  3. Rental licensing No rental certificate is on file. You can't legally rent without one, and the inspection could reveal required fixes.
  4. Tax reassessment risk County value is $123K versus a $329K ask. A reassessment after the rebuild and sale could raise taxes and hurt cash flow.
  5. Rent estimates are modest Our estimate is about $1,325 per 2-bed. Even with new finishes, rents likely cap around $1,550, which won't carry this price.
  6. Low maintenance outlook If the work was permitted and done well, repairs and reserves should be low for years, which is the main thing this property has going for it.Listing says: “Completely rebuilt from the studs up”

From the photos

Listing photo 2
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Kitchens appear fully new: white shaker cabinets, stone-look counters, stainless appliances, luxury vinyl plank.

Listing photo 6
2 of 7Plus

Two separate kitchens are visible, consistent with two units.

Listing photo 5
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Baths appear new, with tiled tub surrounds, new vanities and fixtures.

Listing photo 9
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Baseboard hot-water heaters are visible in the bedroom, which doesn't match the 'furnaces and ductwork' in the description.

Listing photo 1
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Exterior shows new-looking siding and a steep concrete stair up from the sidewalk. The building sits on a raised lot with no visible off-street parking.

Listing photo 10
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Bedrooms appear to have a closet and a window. The description says walk-in closets; the one shown is a standard reach-in.

Listing photo 1
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No photos of the basement, mechanicals, electrical panel, roof or the second unit's exterior entrance.

Based on 10 of the listing photos. Photos can hide as much as they show; an inspection is the real answer.

Condition and repairs

  • doneNew roofListing says: Exterior improvements include new steel siding and a new roof.
  • doneNew electrical from the outside meter throughoutListing says: electrical systems from the outside meter throughout the home
  • doneAll new plumbing, water service from the street, and waste and vent stacksListing says: all new plumbing and water lines including the water service from the street
  • doneNew furnaces, water heaters and ductworkListing says: new high-efficiency furnaces, water heaters, ductwork, insulation, sheetrock
  • doneNew kitchens, baths, flooring, appliances, windows and doorsListing says: all-new kitchens, bathrooms, flooring, appliances, windows, and doors with absolutely no carpet

AI-assisted first read of the listing description and photos (Claude), checked against public records. Every rent and repair above quotes the listing; verify with the agent, leases and an inspection.

The numbers

Down payment %
Offer $
Management
Interest rate %
Edit rents, costs and assumptions

Default: 20% down (no PMI), offer at asking, self-managed, 7.00% for 30 years, buyer pays closing costs (3%).

The deal

Price
$329,000
Cash to close
$75,670
Price per unit
$164,500
GRM
10.3

Each month

Cash flow
−$525/mo
Cash-on-cash
−8.3%
Cap rate
4.5%
DSCR
0.70×

Break-even

Price that breaks even
$230,423
Rent that breaks even
$3,331/mo

Long run

Year 30: property vs stocks
$862K vs $839K
Cash flow turns positive
year 15

Monthly

Monthly breakdown

Rent$2,650
Vacancy (6%)−$159
Collected$2,491
Property tax Public record−$382
Insurance Estimate−$202
Water, sewer, trash Estimate−$170
Lawn care ($120 × 6 mo ÷ 12)−$60
Repairs (8% of rent)−$212
Capital reserve (9% of rent)−$238
Net operating income$1,226
Mortgage (principal + interest)−$1,751
Cash flow−$525
Principal paid down (equity, not cash)$223

Cash flow each year

Rents +3%/yr (St. Paul's cap for sitting tenants), costs +3.5%/yr. Red bars are months you'd cover out of pocket.

30 years

How those totals add up

If you buy this building$861,921
Your equity when you sell
$750,655

Sells for $798,569 (value up 3% a year), minus 6% selling cost ($47,914). Rent paid down $263,200 of loan.

Rental profits, invested at 7%
$111,266

$78,731 of cash flow over 30 years, plus what it earned invested.

Same money in stocks$839,473
Cash to close, invested at 7%
$576,019

$75,670 put into an index fund instead of the down payment and closing costs.

Monthly shortfalls, invested
$263,453

$48,493 you'd have paid in while the building lost money, invested instead.

The building comes out $22,448 ahead after 30 years.

Future dollars. At 3% inflation, divide year-30 figures by about 2.4 for today's buying power. Rental profits are assumed invested, not spent.

30 years: this property vs. the same money in stocks

This propertyStocks at 7%

Year 30 (loan paid off): property $862K, stocks $839K. The property wins.

Comparable rentals

The closest rental listings with each unit's bedroom count, as of 2026-10-06. The estimate is the median asking rent of every rental we found nearby (the count is shown for each); houses are left out. Asking rents from Realtor.com rental listings, not signed leases.

2 bed estimate $1,325/mo · range $1,175–$1,375 · 7 rentals within 0.75 mi

AddressRentBd / BaSq ftDistanceListedType
948 Euclid St Unit 1, Saint Paul $1,400 2 / 1 972 0.3 mi 2026-09-23 Apartment
207 N Maple St, Saint Paul $1,150 2 / 1 600 0.3 mi 2026-03-12 Apartment
283-289 Bates Ave, Saint Paul $1,124 2 / 1 711 0.3 mi 2026-04-29 Apartment
701 E 3rd St, Saint Paul $1,099 2 / 1 880 0.4 mi 2024-04-15 Apartment
1000 McLean Ave, Saint Paul $1,299 2 / 1 734 0.6 mi 2026-07-14 Apartment
1034 Suburban Ave E Unit 307, Saint Paul $1,270 2 / 1 620 0.7 mi 2026-05-02 Apartment
1034 Suburban Ave E Unit 301, Saint Paul $1,270 2 / 1 620 0.7 mi 2026-05-02 Apartment

On the maps, this property and comparable rentals. Comparable rentals and rent estimate: Realtor.com rental listings. Rents are asking rents from listings; check them against the actual leases.

Red flags and opportunities

Watch for

  • highOn the city's Vacant Building registry (Category 1). In St. Paul, Categories 2 and 3 can't be sold or occupied without city approval and a code-compliance plan. Public record: St. Paul Vacant Buildings registry: 892 4TH ST E, Category 1, vacant as of 10/17/2024
  • highVacant-building history means the rebuild may have been done under a city code-compliance process; confirm permits were closed Based on: data: city.vacant_building · AI review
  • mediumNo rental certificate (CofO) on file in the city's data. Ask whether the building is licensed as a rental and when it was last inspected. Public record: St. Paul Certificate of Occupancy – Residential: no record for 892 4TH ST E (dataset last updated mid-2025)
  • mediumAssessed value is far below the ask, so property taxes may jump after reassessment Based on: data: county.market_value · AI review
  • mediumPhotos show baseboard hot-water heat, which conflicts with the description's furnaces and ductwork Listing says: new high-efficiency furnaces, water heaters, ductwork, insulation, sheetrock · AI review
  • mediumListing gives no rents, tenant status or rental license, so income is unproven Based on: data: city.rental_license · AI review
  • low$572 in special assessments on the payable 2026 tax bill (often street, sewer or code-enforcement charges). Ask what they're for, whether they continue, and whether the seller pays them off at closing. Public record: Ramsey County parcel 332922230041: special assessments (payable 2026) = $572.02

Opportunities

  • Long time on market: room to negotiate. Based on: Listing data: 140 days on market
  • Almost no near-term capex after a full rebuild, so reserves can be set low Listing says: Completely rebuilt from the studs up · AI review
  • Price has room to fall: 137 days on market and break-even is far below ask Based on: data: listing.days_on_market · AI review
  • Could be converted to or sold as an owner-occupied home Listing says: convert it into a spacious single-family home · AI review

Questions for the agent

  • Can I see the permits, final inspections and the city's release from the Vacant Building registry?
  • Who did the work, and is there any warranty or contractor documentation?
  • Does each unit have separate heat, water heater and electric meter? The photos show baseboard heat, not ductwork.
  • What are the $572 in special assessments for, and does the seller pay them at closing?
  • Has the city issued or scheduled a rental license inspection (CofO)?
  • Why has it sat 137 days, and has the price changed?

Bottom line

Nicely rebuilt on paper, but at $329K it loses money every month and the vacant-building status needs to be cleared before anything else. AI-assisted summary

What the records say

Where each number comes from

Property tax / yr Public recordRamsey County record, payable 2026 (non-homestead)$4,588
Insurance / yr Estimateestimate. from units, square feet and age; get a quote$2,421
Water, sewer, trash / mo Estimateestimate. $85/unit/mo, owner-paid$170
Heat / mo Assumptionassumption. tenants pay heat; confirm with the agent$0
Lawn care / mo Assumptionassumption. $120/mo for 6 months, spread over 12; no snow removal$60
Repairs / capital reserve Rulerule. built 1900: +1 pt capital reserve8% / 9%

Price history Realtor.com

On the market since 2026-05-18 (140 days); down $36,000 (9.9%) from the first ask of $365,000.

DateEventPrice
Price changed$329,000
Price changed$339,000
Relisted$350,000
Removed—
Price changed$350,000
Listed$365,000

County record Public record

Recorded astwo family dwelling - up/dwn
Living units2
Year built1900
Market value (2026)$123,000
Property tax, payable 2026$4,588
Special assessments$572
Homesteadno
Last sale—

Source: Ramsey County parcel records.

City rental certificate (CofO)

No record in St. Paul Certificate of Occupancy – Residential (dataset last updated mid-2025).

Nearest highway

I 94;US 10, about 700 m away.

Crime in Dayton's Bluff

970 incidents in the last 12 months (52 per 1,000 residents), −6% vs. the year before. St. Paul police incidents, excluding proactive visits and community events.